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Politike2023-09-21 20:14:45

"Lavrov, a tireless propagandist", Rama: We were prepared for every scenario in the Security Council

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"Lavrov, a tireless propagandist", Rama: We were prepared for every

From the meeting hall of the Security Council, where the day before he clashed with the Russian ambassador, Prime Minister Edi Rama explains the invitation to the President of Ukraine, Zelensky to be present at the meeting and how the conflict with Russia started.

In an interview for the show "Real Story", Rama said that the Albanian delegation was prepared for any scenario, including Kosovo.

"We became promoters of this open debate, using the procedures and using a key moment where all the leaders of all the countries of the world come to New York for the General Assembly and of course the fact that Albania took this initiative and led the this session he also made it easier for President Zelensky to be present, using our arm to speak at the beginning of the debate, which Russia objected to as a breach of procedural rules, since of course, no one could stop the president of Ukraine from speaking, but what Russia wanted was to be given the floor at the end in line with the others, which made no sense." Rama said.

" We had worked on all the possible and imaginable streams of the debate, taking into account the behavior of the Russians in the future when it comes to this table on the issue of war, and at the same time we were well prepared to deal with the subject of the abuse of Kosovo , which has been a leitmotif with Russian propaganda at this table as well, but which Minister Lavrov cleverly avoided after it became clear that it would cost him another backlash that would put Russia in a difficult position again, so that it was inevitable to have a debate, but we were also prepared for a more complex debate in the event that the Russians would insist on their abusive line and their absurd resistance to facts and to simple truths", he continued beyond Rama.

Following the interview with the journalist Sokol Balla, Rama also tells what was contained in the document signed with the President of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky.

I ask you about the conflict situation since you are the next President, the arrival of Zelensky in this session is also related to the fact that Albania is the leader of this very important meeting of the Security Council, as we have not seen it before.

- No, it is related to the fact that we became promoters of this open debate, using the procedures and using a key moment where all the leaders of all the countries of the world come to New York for the General Assembly and of course the fact that Albania took this initiative and chaired this session and made it easier for President Zelensky to be present, using our arm to speak at the beginning of the debate, which Russia objected to as a violation of the rules procedural, since of course, no one could stop the president of Ukraine from speaking, but what Russia wanted was that the floor be given to him at the end in line with the others, which made no sense.

In fact, the fight took place inside this small hall, which looks bigger than it is on the screen. Here, you see that one from the other the greatest distance is somewhere around 7 or 5 meters, that you are also an artist yourself, I believe you felt the desire of dramatic brushstrokes there, to describe the situation.

First of all, I want to say very sincerely that we have an extraordinary team here at the United Nations, we have an ambassador who has excelled in this task and has earned everyone's respect, and together with the team we have prepared for all the scenarios of this open debate which, as you saw, was not easy. We had worked on all the possible and imaginable streams of the debate, taking into account the behavior of the Russians in the future when it comes to this table on the issue of war, and at the same time we were well prepared to deal with the subject of the abuse of Kosovo, which has been a leitmotif with Russian propaganda at this table as well, but which Minister Lavrov cleverly avoided after it became clear that it would cost him another backlash that would put Russia in a difficult position again, so , it was inevitable to have a debate, but we were also prepared for a more complex debate in case the Russians persisted in their abusive line and their absurd resistance to facts and simple truths. From the truth of the war in Ukraine, which is a war that they have started, it is a war that they have at the expense of a great responsibility towards Europe and towards all humanity, until the contestation of the legitimacy of the Republic of Kosovo.

Më kujtohet, kemi qenë në Moskë kur ju në atë kohë ishit drejtues i OSBE, nuk mund të mohosh faktin që Lavrov është një diplomat i kalibrit të lartë, por është tragjike dhe e trishtueshme kur e shikon se si edhe diplomat të tillë të katandisen në atë mënyrë sa të pranojnë një realitet që nuk ekziston.

-Ne kemi jetuar në një realitet të krijuar si mbivendosje e realitetit të fakteve për thuajse gjysmë shekulli në kohën e diktaturës, dhe e kuptojmë shumë mirë dhe ndjejmë shumë kollaj të njëjtën lloj përsiatjeje kur e shohim te të tjerët. E vërteta është se ministri i jashtëm rus është një propagandist palodhur dhe i paepur i një realiteti që është një realitet i mbivendosur ndaj atij të fakteve që faktikisht e kryqëzojnë Rusinë në raport me të vërtetën.

Ju nënshkruat një marrëveshje me presidentin Zelensky, mund të na thoni diçka më shumë për këtë?

- No, we signed a document where, like many other countries, we join the cause of Ukraine in specific elements, there is nothing extraordinary. It is simply the continuation of a process where all allied countries are aligned with Ukraine.

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