Journalist Bledian Koka and analyst Albatros Rexhaj clashed fiercely today, while discussing the war in the Middle East and the alarm raised by the US embassy about the danger posed to Albania by groups linked to Iran.
The cause was a statement by Albatros Rexhaj, who said that Prime Minister Edi Rama had acted in the national interest, while journalist Koka opposed it, accusing him of double standards and political use of sensitive issues.
The debate became further tense with personal accusations between the two.
Excerpt from the Rexhaj-Koka debate on "A2 CNN":
Rexhaj: It would have been more honest for Berisha to give his support there and then deal with the procedure later than to come out and make a symbolic sanction. If the intention was to harm Rama, he has strengthened Rama.
Koka : It wasn't to give a message of national unity, but simply to attack the opposition. Is this possible?
Rexhaj: Yes, it could be possible that he wanted to make Berisha look bad. He has set his own trap.
Koka: Then if Rama has this intention and uses such a sensitive issue, why can't Berisha use the same thing? The question I have is, do you think Berisha is pro-Iranian?
Koka: this is for the trushlari Yes no, it's that simple. It's that simple if you don't have a memory. I'm saying once again the time is that there was no deadline for Albania that said; either you vote today or you are our opponents. This was used, as was the case of the invitation that came from the United States of America to be part of the peace board, which I have nothing against but it is used for political purposes and not to give the real will of the Albanians that we have nothing and I don't believe that there is either here or there.
Rexhaj: Leaders lead. In Albania, nothing surprises me, what I read, what people say, and nothing surprises me, but the fact that it hasn't happened makes me doubt.
Koka: You may doubt Berisha's intentions, but you don't doubt Rama's intentions.
Rexhaj: Rama's goal is transparent.
Koka: Rama's goal is to use him for political issues and you're here because when Rama uses him for politics it is in the national interest and when Berisha opposes him. This is hypocrisy.
Rexhaj: That political prime minister can be cynical, the voter determines the hypocrite.
Head : According to the mind, he is a leader at this moment, or he is a politician.
Rexhaj: That gentleman (Berisha) said I'm not with you, when he came out he changed his mind.
Koka: No, this is not the national interest. This is Rama's personal interest. If you say that Edi Rama's personal interest is the national interest, I disagree.
Rexhaj: Go to the polls and get answers.
Koka: You came from Kosovo to defend Edi Rama's democracy, defend it!
Rexhaj: Kosovo has been part of Albania for 150 years, since the time of Isa Boletini, Kosovo has been part of Albania. If you want to do that, absolutely nothing will happen and you will have to be clear about that talk that since Isa Boletini onwards, Kosovo has been part of Albania. It was the gendarmes who defended the republic of Ismail Qemali.
Koka: By serving Edi Rama, you are protecting the national interest. No, you are a slave who has spoken about the division of Kosovo. You can't come and tell us that he protects the national interest. No, you can't tell me. Tell someone who will accept it, but not me. No, sir, no. You are accepting it as a fait accompli.
Rexhaj: You came from Kosovo, you spoke big, man.
Koka: You could have come from Mirdita, calm down! For me, both Kosovo and Mirdita are Albanian lands. They are the same thing.
Rexhaj: Now don't be too gentle.
Koka: Hey, you're talking about division. Hey, you're talking about division. Hey, you're talking about division. Say that this was ethnic division. Yes, yes. Hey, no, no. No, I said it again, it came from Kosovo, and say Edi Rama is a national interest. No, no, Edi Rama's interest cannot be a national interest.
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