
Security analyst and expert Ilir Kulla was today's guest on the "Të Pashog" podcast.
Kulla also commented on Ivanka Trump's visit to Albania, trying to mitigate speculation about her political influence in favor of Rama. "Edi Rama knows this. The son of the American president has been investigated and convicted under the current presidency. Let's not romanticize American politics. If the Aman hotel is built in Sazan, it would be a good thing for investments, but so far we have only seen a show," he said.
Part of the conversation also focused on the island of Sazan, where Kulla ironized the "historical complexes of Albanians" and the conspiratorial narratives that always link the island to foreign interference.
Responding to a question about whether Sali Berisha negotiated with Berlusconi for Sazani, Kulla replied flatly: "This is another fraud. Who was dealing with Berisha on Saturday? Berlusconi is dead, there is no one left to talk to...".
Edjona Dervishi: Was Ivanka Trump's two-day visit to Vlora a precious gift for Edi Rama at this delicate moment?
Ilir Kulla: I don't know, I was in Switzerland. I don't know, I didn't see it.
Edjona Dervishi: No, no, at... at the moment...
Ilir Kulla: I don't know if he was in Vlora for two days. I saw that he was here, yes he was...
Edjona Dervishi: She came to Tirana too, yes.
Ilir Kulla: Well, she was here last summer. Where she had lunch, where she stayed... she stayed last summer. It turns out that I know that place, I mean, I've been there a few times. There are some friends of mine who have it nearby, they have apartments, they have an investment. So I don't know if there's anything...
Edjona Dervishi: She came to the Prime Minister's office, hugged Rama,...
Ilir Kulla: Okay, okay, some people come to the Prime Minister's office. Okay, what else?
Edjona Dervishi: Anyway, she is the daughter of the American president.
Ilir Kulla: Yes, well...
Edjona Dervishi: Is this a gift for Edi Rama at the moment?
Ilir Kulla: Edi Rama knows this. The son of the former American president was convicted during the time of the current president, that is, Biden, Hunter Biden, twice by American courts and was investigated by the FBI. While the father was president. Let's not confuse one thing. I understand. Once he was vice president, then he was president. And the father's last act: he forgave his son. So I don't deal with this part.
If the Aman hotel investment project in that area is carried out, Aman is a seven-star hotel, one of the most famous groups in the world. It will be very good news for investments, for tourism, for Albania. But if it is carried out, because so far we have only seen a show. I wish...
Edjona Dervishi: She's not coming in vain with 60 architects.
Ilir Kulla: I don't know, let's see. So far we have seen many things that have not been done. At that Vlora airport, even last year, the plane took off, landed, the inauguration took place, the promotion took place. Then, after six months, it turned out that they had gone to the prosecutor's office, cursing each other, cursing: "you thief, you fraudster" and so on and so forth. Or not? This happened years ago, it's not that far away.
So I hope this happens, because it's very good news for Albania, for what comes later. But let's go back to Sazan. Do you know how much we Albanians have always wanted someone to come and take the only island we have, which is uninhabited? We've always told this narrative. We've said: the Italians want to take it from us, since the war of 1920. Has any Italian ever lived there?
Edjona Dervishi: So what Berisha said was true? That he wanted to, that he negotiated with Berlusconi once?
Ilir Kulla: Yes, this is another fraud, you understand. That these are all... they all lie. Silvio Berlusconi had a problem if he was dealing with Berisha on Saturday! He brought the capital and did it to us. Where? Berisha now tells Berlusconi - that Berlusconi is dead, there is no one to take it. Now, in the '20s, the Italians wanted to take it from us. In 1939, the Italians wanted to take it from us again. We always want someone to take Sazan from us. Sazan is actually always uninhabited.
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