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Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi privately told President Joe Biden in a recent conversation that polls show the president can't beat Donald Trump and that Biden could destroy Democrats' chances of winning the House in November , if he continues to seek a second term, according to four sources familiar with the conversation.
The president responded by telling Pelosi that he has seen polls showing he could win, a source said. Another of the sources described Biden as being defensive about the polls. At one point, Pelosi asked Mike Donilon, a longtime Biden adviser, to come on the line to talk about the data.
The call would mark the second known conversation between the California lawmaker and Biden since the president's disastrous June 27 debate. While the exact date of the conversation was not clear, a source described it as within the past week. Pelosi and Biden also spoke in early July.
Neither source indicated whether Pelosi told Biden in the conversation that she believes the president should drop out of the 2024 race.
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