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During the interview today, former Deputy Prime Minister Arben Ahmetaj showed how the letters of the incinerators were made.
Ahmetaj asked SPAK where the 60 million euros of Tirana's incinerator are, where they have gone, since they are without an address.
Çim Peka: Who gets the incinerators' money?
Arben Ahmetaj: It's not my job to find out. I have done my tasks. I was the Minister of Finance, I took over at the height of the crisis, and I left it with the lowest deficit on record, 1.6 and with only decreasing debt and increasing income. He gave me the rebuild, I didn't sleep for three months to make the structure and roam around with others to find the money. Yes, in a pandemic. I have not left a mouse hole to look for vaccines.
Çim Peka: When the Tirana incinerator contract was signed, what function did you have?
Arben Ahmetaj: I was not part of the cabinet. When the Tirana contract was signed, it was August 29-30.
Çim Peka: When the procedure started, you were a minister because you rejected Erion Veliaj several times. The minister who was the liaison between the parliament and the government at that time, Ermonela Felaj, has sent a letter to Rama about the firm, that he cannot take this firm because it does not exist. Not only did he get it, he got 8 bonus points. Rama was informed by Felaj, you yourself informed the prime minister that these procedures are illegal, that this company does not exist. You tried to protect the prime minister from this megaabuse.
Arben Ahmetaj: Let's wait for an independent investigation and trial, which is not happening, to understand who and how much abused Tirana. The job of the finance minister is not to evaluate companies. Irena Beqiri said what the Minister of Finance does. The Minister of Finance has no business with procedures. Article 42 of the concessions expressly states; the Ministry of Finance as an institution and not the ministry, as Robenspieri of SPAK wants. Not the minister, he judges the fiscal side, whether the budget supports it or not. I have judged all along that this should not be financed from the state budget. It must be financed by the private sector and as I have written in all the letters about the concessions and this is where my former friends' coldness may have come from, the business risk belongs to the private sector, the exchange risk belongs to the private sector, and I said that as long as, after the letter came. Article 42 asks to say, give money from the budget or not. At the moment it does not give money from the budget for this concession, it is no longer the duty of this institution to say yes or no. Its not. He did not receive money from the budget. We have no comments, but the budget risk passes to the business, the exchange risk must pass to the business and the agreement must be obtained, but it has come as a procedure, the agreement of all the municipalities of the district. So it is not an agreement. And you can read it in the HSC report, January 2022, it is clearly written in black and white. Should an incinerator be built in Tirana? I think that Erion Veliaj in his requests has built a stable and necessary case to build the incinerator in Tirana. Should it be built by the government? No. Why not, as it belonged to the finance minister of that time, and the former minister in front of you; the budget could not hold 128 million euros. Let the private sector build it.
Çim Peka: There is a moment. You were the Minister of Economy, Finance, for reconstruction, Deputy Prime Minister. You have been part of this majority all along. It was not done with an accelerated procedure, but with tendering, everything in terms of tendering, which was a national emergency, because people were outside and it was done with a national emergency, this waste, incinerators, national emergency in 2014, just so that there was no tendering and to be given to those who were determined. Arben Ahmetaj has ever raised his voice that these are procedures with violations, as a minister of that government.
Arben Ahmetaj: You are referring to Fier. That the waste committee declared the emergency. The committee mainly has deputy ministers and even former deputy ministers who today come out and speak against the incinerators, because they have signed. Because they become funny when I look at them more calmly today.
Çim Peka: One of them is Dritan Hila, this one from the defense.
Arben Ahmetaj: I don't care about names.
Çim Peka: I'm interested in them, because they have vice ministries that they haven't signed.
Arben Ahmetaj: Komiteti ka shpallur emergjencën. Tani ka një raport për këtë emergjencë, ka një raport nga pas. Prandaj duhen parë procedurat një për një. Përsa i përket procedurës së Elbasanit, në këndvështrimin tim ka qenë korrekte, përsa i përket ndjekjes së hapave. E njëjta gjë edhe për Fierin. Është zbatuar ligji i koncesioneve, është paraqitur kërkesa. Po kur unë kam thënë se nuk kam fuqinë...
Çim Peka: Është bërë pa garë, sepse komiteti kishte shpallur emergjencën për këtë qëllim.
Arben Ahmetaj: Unë mendoj që i takon atyre që hetojnë të shohin procedurën dhe e kanë parë, x apo y prokuror e ka parë procedurën dhe ka vendosur që kjo procedura mund të ketë këto difekte apo të mira.
Çim Peka: Emergjenca është bërë që të shkohet në procedurën pa garë, ku një person me 1 mijë euro në llogari, të merrte 30 mln euro për inceneratorin e Elbasanit dhe pas 1 jave ta shiste për 15 mln euro dhe ta bënte dikush tjetër. U bë apo jo, është tjetër gjë.
Arben Ahmetaj: Të sugjeroj miqësisht, që është e drejta juaj të provokoni me shifra, por do të ju sugjeroja kur flisni me shifrat mirë është t’i referoheni të zezës me të bardhë, sepse ekspertimi ka treguar se është shpenzuar më shumë. Mund të pyesni edhe Faraudin Arapin...
Çim Peka: Nuk është institucion për tu besuar, është ky që u mor me menaxhimin e parave të fajdeve...
Arben Ahmetaj: Ekspertimi ka treguar se tek Elbasani është harxhuar më shumë se sa tek kontrata, dhe tek Fieri thotë Arapi, dhe unë i besoj, është shpenzuar më shumë se kontratat, pavarësisht se unë mendoj se autoriteti kontraktor e ka sabotuar Fierin për të rënduar Lefter Kokën në burg, duke mos e financuar kontratën. Dhe ky është ...
Çim Peka: Kush është kjo kompani që merret me biznes, që vjen e futet në një garë të paracaktuar, që qëllimisht bëhen të tilla, kush është ky biznesmen që vjen e futet për të dalë me humbje...
Arben Ahmetaj: Mos më pyet mua. E kishe atë që ti mendon që kanë bërë Fierin dhe Elbasanin dhe mund ti pyesësh sërish si është llogaria.
Çim Peka: E pyeta dhe ai nuk kishte përgjigje.
Arben Ahmetaj: Janë punët e tyre, nuk ngatërrohem me ta, në respekt të halleve dhe punëve të tyre.
Çim Peka: Kjo del se vetëm te Tirana është vjedhur.
Arben Ahmetaj: Jo jo, pyetjen e kam tek SPAK, ku kanë shkuar 60 mln. Ku, kanë shkuar 60 mln ndërkohë që ti ndjek laminatin e kuzhinës së Erjolës dhe pllakat e banjos. Ku janë 60 mln dollarë, kush qëndron pas, kush ka dhënë garanci, kush e ka blerë, kush është 20%. Le të shikohen këto.
Çim Peka: In the trial of Arben Ahmetaj, what prompted Edi Rama, the prime minister of Albania, to sign and give the incinerator of Tirana to a company that according to his minister did not exist and even this company was given 8 bonus points, and the prime minister of knew that after 8 months that this contract would be signed, this firm would exist. What forced Edi Rama to do this?
Arben Ahmetaj: I cannot judge anyone's mind. I judged as the then Minister of Finance that no money should be paid from the budget for that incinerator. I have always held the position that the municipality of Tirana should be given a subsidy if for the waste and not that the budget should be responsible for the waste of Tirana. This is the reason why there is a government decision to subsidize Tirana, to be distinguished in legal and financial terms, for all Robespierres with a fair heart and mind, when they read it, they can distinguish exactly what has been done, that the papers are papers. There today, Çim Peka has criminal populism. I am stoned by criminal populism. How is it possible that the complete file is leaked to the media? How is it possible that a prosecutor comes out and says, there will be surprises in Ahmetaj's file. Why, what a surprise you found, that I brought down the Twin Towers and killed Kennedy. How can you make it personal, it violates the system, it shows personal hatred, what is it for, political will, threat.
Çim Peka: It is not personal, if 60 million euros are missing, these are distributed.
Arben Ahmetaj: Are they distributed, find out. Very nice, follow the 60 million euros and don't go out and say that we are worried about confiscating it, that we are worried about arbitration. You are worried about arbitration, you cannot speak as a minister, this is the duty of the Minister of Finance, not SPAK. If you are worried about arbitration, thoroughly investigate Beckett, a commission of inquiry has also been rejected. Investigate arbitration or you're going to bury me. Who are you threatening me, pressuring the court that you will ask for the maximum penalty if you don't shave for the proceedings. Well done. We made the new justice to be all equal before the law, not one above the law and the other below. So my case Mr. Peka is very important for justice reform. It has been attempted to become a political-legal statistic. A whole narrative has been built that this is the man who has to eat it. This widow in her mother's. I will not become a scapegoat for Ed Rama. I don't do it for anyone, not for Ed Rama. I will bear the cross that belongs to me. But I do not bear anyone else's cross and I am not a creature that can be threatened, neither by the Robespierres, nor by criminals, nor from prison, nor from outside prison. I'm brave, no, I'm a normal person. I'm afraid, of course I'm afraid like everyone else. I fear death, of course, we will die one day, of course. But I am not a creature that can be threatened. That's for sure.
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